MonocleBios wrote:There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone making a port right now
We don't have the knowledge. That is what is stopping us. so we make a request. Mind you, I'm not begging or such. Leave that to anybody else, I just agree on the idea of a new engine.
I don't have the knowledge either. Blitz3D is pretty much the only engine/language I know well enough to make a game with it (knowing the basics of C++/C#/java isn't really enough to code something like SCPCB).
MonocleBios wrote:Regalis shouldn't have any incentive to port the game because it will murder any current development schedule he has. The only way I ever see a port being made is if someone else makes it (answer42 and risingstar64), even then, it takes months to get anything remotely close to the original. Personally, I'm indifferent to what engine Reg uses, I'm still able to work in the current one without too many repercussions. Sure I may have some issues with the language in question, but as Sam said, any decent programmer can still work with it and maintain good results. I can't say anything for the modellers, for all I know the engine may be nightmarish for them. But of course, everyone here seems to think that they are entitled to a 'superior engine' without really thinking about how fucking time consuming the transition period is. Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly okay to think about how the game would run on a more sophisticated engine, but asking the guy who has done so much work to just put it because 'it looks better' is downright ignorant. You want a better engine? Then write the goddamn game on a better engine, rather than bitching at Reg to do it for your lazy ass.
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This.
Many of you don't seem to realize how much work it would take to change the engine. I don't know if a year would be enough for me to do the port, even if I used something as easy to learn as Unity, and didn't have things like school and work to worry about. There's also the thing that I've been making SCPCB just for fun, I'm not making any money with it. Going through something as tedious as rewriting the entire game isn't really my idea of fun.
I do understand that I have to move away from Blitz3D at some point, but that's going to be with some other project than SCPCB. I've already spent so much time on it that I'm not starting everything from pretty much scratch again.
...But as MonocleBios said, the game is open source and the license allows anyone to modify and redistribute it. You don't even need my permission to port it to another engine. I'd be glad to see a well-made port, and hopefully Answer42's C++ conversion will become one eventually
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Ya, um please don't ever change engines for the games you make, I feel the rustic feel adds a bit more (read a frak ton more) fear factor. I don't quite understand why, it just that. I am guessing it leaves a great deal more up to the players Imagination.
and besides, Switching this Game t6o a new Engibne mid streem is pretty much what i consider a class A bad idea. You'd be better off gettin SCP-175 to do the coding.
switching engines is not only time consuming, but diffrent codes don't always work unamounausly. Bugs are never fun, and they are worse when codes need to be updated or even rehauled.
Regalis, it really is you! Even if you were not necessarily gone, I would like to officially welcome you back
I can understand why you would not want to switch engines after having already made so much of Containment Breach in Blitz3D. Whatever you decide, I look forward to assisting with the game in whatever way I can now that you've returned. I hope you have come back with some new model requests ;)
Also, now that my school year has just about ended, I finally have time to take a look at BlitzMax. If there is any code you would like written or assistance with, I'd be glad to help with that to.
What do you people think it took to make the game? You think all the platforms, the offices and tunnels, all custom built. No. It had to take hours of hard concentrated work just to make the fucking tunnels alone. And inexperienced noobs would think making SCP-173 took like ten minutes. Guys, I agree that SCP CB should be put on a better engine. Although if Regalis doesn't want to convert to a new engine, then leave the man alone. He's using what he's comfortable with. You want the game to look pretty? You're more then welcome to help. And the graphics that we currently have really aren't bad. Sure, it could look better. But it could also be worse. Take that into mind, lose your ignorance, and be thankful.
Sometimes i need to know when to stop so i dont get my ass handled
Soulzarath wrote:What do you people think it took to make the game? You think all the platforms, the offices and tunnels, all custom built. No. It had to take hours of hard concentrated work just to make the fucking tunnels alone. And inexperienced noobs would think making SCP-173 took like ten minutes. Guys, I agree that SCP CB should be put on a better engine. Although if Regalis doesn't want to convert to a new engine, then leave the man alone. He's using what he's comfortable with. You want the game to look pretty? You're more then welcome to help. And the graphics that we currently have really aren't bad. Sure, it could look better. But it could also be worse. Take that into mind, lose your ignorance, and be thankful.
Appreciation is a valuable trait. I thought my comrades on this forum were made of more morality. So unless you have something to contribute or have contributed, you have no place to try and justify your selfishness. It is okay to want a new one, but to complain about it without taking action yourself is cowardice.
Ltn Vasquez wrote:I see this as a fantastic idea. The old engine, Blitz3D, simply will not do in the future. I followed the C++ conversion closely and I saw a late video of what the conversion would look like on the game. It looks amazing, and if this is what it looks like as the lesser C++ language, than I bet these other engines will make the game look fantastic.
Also, I understand that the conversion to an new engine will take a very long time. However, this will have to be necessary. A new engine will definitely fix the game up. For example, light. DYNAMIC light. Think of all the ideas that can be added. We can fix the light fixtures, add improved muzzle flash and even make some shadows. The possibilities are endless.
And please, don't make time your excuse for not wanting to convert. We have all the time in the world.
As for Regalis, well there is nothing to be done but to set yourselves some very good arguments and points.
I agree with this. We do have all the time in the world, and now that Regalis is done with his military service, we have even more. I wouldn't mind going a few months or so without a new update while the game is being converted. It's not like I don't have anything else to do. I'm sure this goes for most of you, too. I know Regalis is comfortable with the current engine, but I'd like him to consider the benefits to the game and how it could help expand the community if we were to convert to a new engine.
spartan322 wrote:it is not every day that an SCP comes out of the closet.
Soulzarath wrote:What do you people think it took to make the game? You think all the platforms, the offices and tunnels, all custom built. No. It had to take hours of hard concentrated work just to make the fucking tunnels alone. And inexperienced noobs would think making SCP-173 took like ten minutes. Guys, I agree that SCP CB should be put on a better engine. Although if Regalis doesn't want to convert to a new engine, then leave the man alone. He's using what he's comfortable with. You want the game to look pretty? You're more then welcome to help. And the graphics that we currently have really aren't bad. Sure, it could look better. But it could also be worse. Take that into mind, lose your ignorance, and be thankful.
Appreciation is a valuable trait. I thought my comrades on this forum were made of more morality. So unless you have something to contribute or have contributed, you have no place to try and justify your selfishness. It is okay to want a new one, but to complain about it without taking action yourself is cowardice.
Hang on. So we're not entitled our own opinion unless we provide something? Like what? A mod? Get off it. You guys can demand your new engine, but there also people against it. And I'm one of them.
Also, Regalis stated earlier he won't switch. So that's the end of it anyway.
The ignorance in some people is startling, even for someone selfish like me.
